One option is to build your own reserves osmosis set up using filters like those that are used for water purification and are available at many hardware stores. Your email address will not be published. Otherwise, read on. It works quite well, but we have found that we go through a ton of wood processing maple syrup every year. N ow that I have gone to a small backyard evaporator I plan on building one because I do know what an RO will do for me, I just did not want to lay out th money for even the small ones that most of the Maple company make. Hi Bill, Im not sure Im understanding your question but the 50% is the increase in sugar content. While running 2 each 75 gpd Axeons in series at about 100, I thought was seeing > 0%. Michelle. Im wondering if your system would cope? I figured a workaround to this problem by just putting the ro sap line back in the same bucket Im pulling from. Thanks for your info. Then see what the system does under various operating conditions. No, reverse osmosis doesnt remove sugar from your sap. Your RO filter looks fantastic. I think your pricing is not correct. . I have huge respect for DIYers like you who know what they want and can seriously build it. You can also follow my Maple Syrup pinterest boardright here. Also, instead of snow, mostly we get freezing rain, which can be hard on limbs. How do you flush the system, how often would you do it, and what do you do to store it? Yep, we often run it through twice. even read about storing the filters in permeate. I love my Nikon; you canread more about my camera and even purchase your own here. Your blog is so interesting. Pump and transformer,membranes* (you will need 4 but see other links for varying gallons per day),membrane casings(4),filter 4-pack,filter housing,pressure gauge, a straightneedle valve. Hi Jim, I have never have run my sap through more than once, but I know people who do. Hope that helps. Are you building your own RO for this year? Thanks, Bob. Our maple syrup operation manager (aka hubby) built a reverse osmosis (RO) filter system that we run our sap through before boiling. I will update the article to explain that! Do not see it in the drawing. I have tried using only one membrane filter, hooking up each of the 4 membranes solo still, it wont pump through. Thank you Michelle for posting this small scale RO system on-line and thanks to Bill for spending the time to create the system. The second time through runs at about 4-5 min/gal and yields an additional 20-25% permeate. Its just reversed. Ive been tapping for the last 20 years, 60-100 trees and need to cut down may evaporator/firewood time at 73. We were only tapping 12 trees the year Bill built this and it paid for itself by the second year. I just received all the parts recommended ( I went for 4 100GPD filters) and it cost me just under 500$. Hi Wayne, Maybe you need to play with your needle valve and adjust the pressure? I did a comparison run yesterday and would somebody please check my unbelievable calculations: This is the one we use: https://amzn.to/2MhygVd. We never need to clean them during the season, but every time we use it we run some permeate through the system before shutting it off for the night. and it is exactly like your Hubbys setup. Ive had this bookmarked for a while and finally made mine. The floorboards creak, the barn roof sags, and the rocky land seems unforgiving. Hi again Michelle, Thanks again for all the info. The results indicate that producing syrup with sap concentrated by RO does not have a significant impact on syrup chemical composition or flavor. Hope that helps. Just wanted to thank you for the great instructions on building an RO. Dont use rusty or corroded spouts, buckets, or other maple utensils. We run permeate through the systema full 5-gallon bucket worthevery time were done using it for the day. This is only to remove any sediment, bugs, or twigs from the sap. Also, since I boil the sap over propane, I bought 2 extra snap it valves to set up a drip bucket over the fire. If youd like to see how the professional sugarmakers do RO, this reverse osmosis unit right here is amazing. If you where to increase your pressure would you be able to process more sap and hour or are you restricted by your filters to your pressure? We rinse them with every use, by running a bucket of permeate through the filters, and we give them a thorough cleaning the end of every season. I am excited to get this working and I am determined to figure it out. Happy boiling! The other item you listed, 1/4 polyethylene tubing (25 of it) item #814305, model #98584, Is correct, but technically it has an OD of 3/8 and the ID is 1/4. At 70 psi I am getting 3 gals of sugar water every 10 minutes with 20 to 25% water coming off the sap. Thanks for sharing your DIY project. Will the water be coming out of the tube marked permeate? ), If you wanna read more about why we ro,go here. Hi Jason, We chose 4 membranes cause we read that any more is pointless, but wanted to maximize what we could. Our evaporator is heated by a wood fire and it usually takes around 50 gallons of sap to cook down into one gallon of syrup. Once you have all the parts in front of you, itll take you a few hours, tops. I wouldnt know how to even cut the plywood the size I wanted it. It was amazing!, Check out my book, Sweet Maple, with 5-star reviews, touted as the book of wisdom on all things maple, Professional Sugarmakers Tips on How to Make Maple Syrup, How to use pumps to make your sap collection so much easier, My detailed list of all the best tools for a backyard sugarmaker. Thank you Michelle & Bill for sharing this information! How long does it take to put it all together? Or does it not matter? After both runs, I have about 55% high sugar content sap and 45% very low sugar permeate. I need to get me some Sweet Maple! This is the 3rd year of tapping. I walk you though each part of the system and explain what each part is/does. Feed your Family: How to Start a Vegetable Garden from Scratch, this set of instructions from Souly Rested, Sugar Cube Reverse Osmosis System from Vermont Evaporator Company, How to Prepare your Vegetable Garden for Winter (Fall Garden Checklist). I started producing maple syrup as a hobby over 20 years ago. Then keep scrolling for a totally unprofessional, hope-you-understand-what-hes-talking-about drawing of Bills design. We just finished putting it all together. so many great questions Katharine! . Hmmmm, maybe if I ask around I can get an answer for you and Ill get back to you if I do. just goes to show attention to detail is vital.. I got a 0 to 10% refractometer that resolves considerably better than my old 0 to 32 job. Reverse Osmosis is a process typically used in water purification. And I have huge respect for Bill and for YOU, since youre here. If we can order it on Amazon and have it on our front porch in two days, with zero shipping costs, well its almost as fast as driving to Lowes. Looking forward to next year. Wow, 3 days of banging my head against a wall trying to get it working and it came down to the one-way valve and having the needle valve hooked up to the wrong outlet of the 4th membrane. EZ-FLO 0.170-in ID x 150-ft Polyethylene Tubing Item #879275Model #98632. Works great. You do need the needle valve. Follow up questions re: cleaning. Thanks so much! Try setting you brass valve (petcock) to around 70-80 psi. When that bucket is half full I pull it and start the next bucket. . btw, if you dont already have Amazon Prime, I highly recommend it. I cant wait to hear what you do with the permeate, and or what you use it for! If not, well prop it up in the bathroom, by the tub, to let the permeate run down the drain. Reverse Osmosis in the Maple Syrup Industry The maple industry utilizes this technology to separate a large percentage of the water from maple sap. We use filters intended for 150 gallons per day, and 5 gallons goes through in about 45 minutes. At the end of the season, after flushing them well, we then place the filters in a large ziploc bag in the freezer until the following season. Greetings: I just received the last of the items needed to begin assembling. and3.5-4 after I ran mine thru the RO system. icon below: window.fd('form', { The amount of wood we were using was starting to feel counter-productive. All said and done, I ended up with about 2 gallons of syrup, using 2.5 tanks of propane and finishing in the kitchen. What pressure do you run at? I have not been able to remove much water just passing the sap thru the system. Ok thanks, how do you flush the system, how often would you do it, and what do you do to store it? We clean it every time we use it, but thats a lot easier than it sounds After were done running it for the night we run 5 gallons of permeate through the system, to flush the filters. Since most backyard sugar makers use wood to boil their syrup, the savings on fuel by cutting your boiling time in half is huge. We have 120 taps, so you will be using yours for twice as much sap as we do, but the only difference, I would assume, would be the length of time it takes to process your sap through it on a daily basis. Do I need to find couplers to change to 3/8 or can I just use 1/4 for that part. just goes to show attention to detail is vital. Compare to last year where we got about 1 gallons and used 4(!!!) I hope you LOVE your RO and all the money it saves you! Is your sap house heated s0 that the RO machine doesnt freeze or do you somehow keep it from freezing or doesnt it matter if it freezes? Open the tops and add additional solution if needed. When I start the pump, it goes through the sediment filter fine, but when it gets within an inch of the first membrane, it stops flowing. Any thoughts or comments? It seems they both work well, just the way they are plumbed. The line with the needle valve is the line that carries the ROd sap that then is boiled. The stuff I order is the same as your part spec. See a 2,100-tap operation using a tubing/vacuum system, reverse osmosis and a wood pellet-fired evaporator. My concentrate was sound 4%. Sadly, yes, you have to filter many other times throughout the whole process. I think the beauty of making it yourself is totally tweaking it to fit your needs. Hi, So I basically clicked all the links you provided and bought all the stuff, and ordered the part numbers from Lowes.. I made my first syrup this spring and quickly came to the realization that ROing the syrup first is essential to cut down the time spent boiling. You could also reach in and remove large pieces of debris with a slotted spoon. Im a retired guy who has made between 10 and 15 gallons of syrup annually using an open pan and LP gas as a heat source. Thank you in advance for your time as well as your assistance. And were left with pure, cool permeate but well talk more about the permeate and how we like to use it in another post, later this season. Its all Bills work. When its time to start up the RO again the next year, all we do is take the filters out of the fridge and use them. Thank you, Gordie, for letting me know all of this!! Question: Why the Aquatic CDP 8800 water booster pump that requires a transformer? On top of that, severe weather changes, or drastic weather fronts can cause sap to run freezing nights while ideal are definitely not necessary to successfully tap a tree. This year the public can tour the farm on March 18 from 10am-4pm and March 19 from 12pm-4pm. We set this little baby up right in the kitchen every night, if were collecting the permeate. 18195 Conc Rd 17, Maxville ON. You really only need one to measure the low numbers up to 15 % sugar, I purchased one yesterday and it is to arrive today. If I use a cheaper RV pump that can get up to 60 PSI would I run into trouble? This video shows you our DIY reverse osmosis (RO) filter, which cuts our family's costs in LESS THAN HALF when we make maple syrup. You have an awesome informational site. How do you clean this system? Thanks for any suggestions. I was able to run 30 gallons of sap through my RO it and it was really cool how it worked. WebHomemade Maple Syrup Reverse Osmosis Water Reverse Osmosis System Canning Syrup Maple Syrup Evaporator Maple Tapping Maple Syrup Grades Syrup Labels More information More information Build your own Reverse Osmosis system for maple syrup SoulyRested More like this W Water Filtration System L 1 Plus, youll have the piece of mind that your sap has been filtered in food-safe way for longer storage. Maple syrup producers use an evaporator to boil the sap into syrup, and doing so can take quite a long time (read more about how to boil here). If the weather is going to be particularly warm, we can take this smaller amount of sap and pop it in a cooler or the fridge so it doesnt warm up too much. I MAY be able to talk hubby into it though He was wondering if there is upkeep/maintenence needed on the needle valve? Funding for this project was made possible by the U.S. Department of Agricultures (USDA) Agricultural Marketing Service through grant AM170100XXXXG167, awarded to the University of Vermont Proctor Maple Research Center. I am building an RO fashioned after one of my neighbors here in WI. Put them into two separate buckets and voila, you can cut the water content of your sap by up to 50%. Maple syrup is produced typically from maple sap concentrated by nanofiltration or reverse osmosis at a moderate Brix level ranging from 6 to 16 Brix followed by heat evaporation. We live in the Deep South. So weve actually never tried to run it in an unheated area. I realized I had things set up all wrong. Hi Mark, Its all Greek to me, but Bill said thats just his perference but you definitely can choose something else. Im still a little unclear on the cleaning procedure after each run during the season. Thank you for all of this; would not have done it without you. Thank you. 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