She even labelled food in her kitchen. Would he have cleaned up Shannans stuff if he didnt kill them? Im wondering if he had bipolar. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. He didnt know what to do and was shaking. @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. On top of that, he had to forcibly PUSH Bella down into the oil tank, because she was larger than the 8 inch diameter oil tank hole to fit through please answer why? You should apologise to him actually for your rude remarks in your comment. The entire thing is horrific, but theres a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding going on several people mentioning the hyoid bone being in tact or the lack of patechia but I can tell you from experience- Ive seen severe patechia in a sick womans eyes and also in a drowning victim (age 2)- but in all 3 bodies Ive observed during transport or autopsy- none had patechia and none had thier hyoid disturbed- Ive only ever seen it broken in hanging/suicide cases or once in an auto accident that involved crushing injuries to the head and neck. I have to wonder if somehow she woke up and saw what happened to her Mommy. FACT: But think about it. The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female whose appearance is generally consistent with the Rigor mortis lasts 8-12 hours. Shan'ann, Bella and Celeste Watts 25 Page Autopsy Report | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek CRIME NEWS WATTS KNOX JonBenet MCCANN WM3 PENDING TOOLBOX TCRS YOUTUBE ARCHIVE Chris said: I freaked out and I did the same thing to f****** her. Theyd already pulled $10,000 out of Chris 401K to try and get caught up on their mortgage, but they were somehow burning through money like there was no tomorrow. He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) And his mistress tells him she wants to be the one to have his first boy prior to the murders and surprise after finding out she is having a boy , she is now dead. Nickole called Chris several times and he kept giving different arrival times. Gastrointestinal Tract: Otherwise I cant imagine why she didnt go for his eyes etc. It is a condition that causes you to have irrational and uncontrolled thoughts, and the only way to make the thoughts stop, is to perform a ritual. A person who is killed and immediately wrapped up and taken out of the home within an hour isnt going to be in rigor in that time- the first rigor shows up in about 1-2 hours, and then takes about 12 hrs to fully develop Then dissipates again about 12 hours later. Theres another case that does involve a murder by a husband on a bed, through manual strangulation, and they found small drops of his and her blood on the sheets, as well as traces of her feces elsewhere in the room. i did not read many commentsso maybe others have notice thisCeces autopsys did not reveal her oesophasagus( maybe wrong spelling )surgery?this can be a reason why CW tried to keep all of them health documentation avoid been public recorded?becausethere may have been some exageration about it ?on the other sideinsurance policies would have not give them money so maybe this is why the medical bills so heavy?there is something that i dont understand? When the girls were not at daycare, and at home, they took very long naps, and also had a 6:30 pm bedtime, sleeping 630-6:30. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. MLM comes across in this paper as a cult-like entity that epitomizes absolute evil (evil = a foundation of lies) especially when you read the case histories. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported. Folks seem to think wanting to know why means supporting Watts or blaming his wife. Police reportsA photo of one of the girls. In theory, you should find some evidence, which did not find. He stated in a letter to the reporter woman that he remembers her face streaking with mascara and blood filling her eyes. Cassie Rosenberg Page 626 Or putting her down. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? I chose this thread that details the grisly aspects of the deaths to post it because, after reading the entire thing, it almost seems that there was an unrecognized accomplice in the Watts family murders. Lastly, he lies constantly to the police, why is this self serving story all of the sudden believable? Ive been sleeping in my bra during my pregnancy- because my chest hurts all the time and taking it off even to shower is extremely uncomfortable. When it was revealed yesterday that the children had been smothered, I assumed a pillow was used, especially since it would cover their faces and provide emotional distance for Chris while murdering his own children. Then probably went to bed & I guarantee he was in their bed not in the basement & this made her happy. Please explain. "Chris Watts Just Snapped" "Why wasn't Shan'ann's body dumped into the oil tanks as well?" #Shakedown's Call on the Chris Watts Case: The Bodies were "Processed" Shananns Autopsy Report states, There is a linear array of variably sized, purple black circular defects which extend from the inferior aspect of the chin, along the jawline, up the left aspect of the face, towards the left temporal area. I feel like maybe she did meet them. If youre not OCD, it doesnt mean Shanann wasnt. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. I wouldnt throw that out the window. Found this research paper a stunning indictment of Multilevel Marketing (MLM) industry. I really think that the pregnancy started the whole thing. Dont mislead people into believing there should be feces in the location of a murder. @Nickvdl IMO I think he strangled her from behind and on their bed. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? Hope he has a wonderful time rotting and thinking about what hes done to his family. Its hard to fight a larger man off of you when held down, in fear of dying and trying to gasp for air. http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, But Celeste didnt have oil her stomach. I would just like to express an opinion of mine to you and all your readers. None of that is going to me made public, for obvious reasons. Theres plenty of liqueurs that are very well hidden in frozen shakes etc. Its completely obvious from videos that the wife was a nut job, self absorbed, controlling weirdo that undermined her husband constantly..so leave her ass!! The kids died afterward, otherwise he would have to break bones due to rigor to get them through the hatch. No matter the circumstances he killed not 3 but 4 people including his unborn child. Theres a very clear indicator when the children died. She seemed to be in pajamas which indicates she got into bed, which sickly matches up with his barely got into bed remark, The sheets were stripped because they probably got pulled off anyway during the act. Where was all the money from that house? So while he would have possibly had more of a mess to clean up with ShanAnn than with the girls, it was contained, unlike the mess of that horrid Patrick Frazee who killed Kelsey Berreth by braining her with a baseball bat. Typo. So Chris Watts said she barely got into bed, and soshe barely got into bed? COFFIN BIRTH OF BABY NICO!-Please read description TY Scrub The Surface 8.27K subscribers Subscribe 13K Share 1.5M views 4 years ago THIS VIDEO IS. Want to keep up with the latest. There was a largely decomposed fetus expelled from the uterus. (Oh and the bra with pregnant women 100% The T and underwear sleep outfit? Similarly, the anxiety caused by these obsessions can be lessened by different compulsions, such as checking (e.g., re-checking door locks, repeatedly making sure the oven is off), repeating (e.g., doing the same action or ritual over and over to be sure it was done correctly), and counting (e.g., doing things in certain numbers, counting items to certain numbers). I guess since theyre children and small its possible. He really thought he could get away with this? It was on an automatic answering thing. Celeste and Bellas bodies were each inside one of the tanks. I think he may have snapped and killed Bella first. And even if he did not kill them twice so to speak, he killed the on in front of the other with no thoughts to their fear levels or anything but yet you put all the blame on another of the victims. She didnt nick him in the neck, that mark was not from her nails. Sociopaths/Covert narcissists wreak havoc and(emotional) destruction on those around them without exception. What information to that extent do you expect *an autopsy* to provide?? After reading the 2000 page discovery & the autopsy report & listening to the FBI agent talk about other cases I learned that smothering by manual force is done very frequently to children. Unfortunately, I know what its like to be strangled. Shanann is very OCD [McKenna Lindstrom, the babysitter]. Actually I have a sad experience of watching both my mother and brother pass away in front of me. In this day and age, OCD has become a replacement word for ritualistic behaviour and personal idiosyncrasies. he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. Talk to first reponders or health care workers. The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished although decomposing Caucasian female whose appearance is generally Im sure if he were pretending to sleep she would have been so tired she would have gone to sleep right away, thinking well talk in the morning, things will be better tomorrow. No other way to put it. Some people believe his story that Shannan killed the kids like he said. A CHOKEHOLD usually involves cutting off the air supply, (air choke or tracheal choke) a STRANGLEHOLD involves cutting off the blood supply. The Weld County Coroner released the complete autopsy reports of Bella, Celeste, and Shanann Watts, who were murdered by Chris Watts on August 13. Everyone tho he was great guy. Fecal traces also missing in the Zahau case. I have to point out that Shanann DID have marks on her face there was a line of small circular bruises running from beneath her chin and up the left side of her face towards her temple. Anyway, either you get it, or you dont. That is what this whole thing boils down to, Chris not wanting a divorce for the simple fact of having to pay child support on 3 kids. ( when they were arguing she couldnt sleep & had been crying all night ) What happened when she got home nobody knows, but I do believe she felt comfortable enough to go online and shop. What was the motive? Does this indicate that she was alive after being put into the oil tank? He didnt flip. Does anyone know where I can view the autopsy pictures and/or videos? His aversion to it is so blatant, and its obvious why. I agree with you Jessica That alone speaks volumes how they were approaching their relationship. Very CW. Bella fought back, according to the prosecutor, Denver Channel reported. DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . No, I dont believe she was drinking at all, considering she was pregnant. yes, that is great, there is no mention at all that there was any of the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge that was in Bellas stomach, thankyou for pointing that out Nick. Because he said hed never hurt his girls? Amy thoughts on her? Shanann was wrapped in a sheet. No, this does not indicate that she was still alive. They have no empathy, which enables them to be incrediably cruel, if it suits. Mommys earned this. It seems likely she even planned to use her pregnancy and 3rd child in service to her MLM addiction see https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/. He could have planned to go to work early that morning so as to avoid talking to Shanann. The lie detector test question focused solely on her, didnt even mention the kids. I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. Did you have to cover something up for Shannan? The girls were described as light sleepers, and I wonder if this was because in fact they were sleeping too much, because wow, that is a lot of sleep, even for their ages. Its definately not most. If that were in fact the equivalent of an $80,000 *salary*, they wouldnt have been behind on their mortgage and HOA dues. Autopsy reports for Bella and Celeste say that the necks of the children were swabbed even though they were in a container of oil, water, and associated sludge matter. Its in the autopsy x. Yes, Posted Youtube videos shows that her office was messy. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. The LeVel MLM was a huge contributing factor in this familys financial collapse. Not on his hands around her throat? CeCe was face down no oil inside her. False nails like ShanAnn was so fond of wearing dont scratch skin as effectively as natural nails do they arent as sharp. From what I understand its not possible to swallow fluids once youre dead. The graphic autopsy reports detail the condition of all three bodies after they were recovered from an oil site owned by Anadarko Petroluem, where Chris Watts buried them. Once the body dies the lower digestive tract opens up. The children were accustomed to regularly taking medication; it would have been very simple for CW to simply give them a couple extra pills to swallow while they were relaxing watching TV after their dinner, and once they were sedated, wrap a plastic bag around their heads. Oil water and sludge debris in the stomach.. Also, in the 2-4 minutes it took him to kill Shannan, this father who would never hurt his kids, never looked at the visible baby bump and thought Im killing the baby too, I need to stop. Smothering is albeit horrific, a more a gentle or approach that a mother may take. Saying she will be there with lollipops and other things. And so on. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. God I wish she had taken the girls and just got the heck out of there. @Kaye Im thinking the girls were killed after Shanann because he knew she would look in on them, perhaps kiss them, before turning to bed herself.>>>When he murdered Shanann, how do you think he did it? Rossen et al 1943 states that loss of consciousness occurs in five to eleven seconds where there has been carotid and vertebral artery compression. He was adamant that no no nothing like that happened but the female agent is sympathetic & is using a technic which is to put the blame on another person & make him feel less at fault. It's difficult to speculate what the norm would be in a criminal case, especially where an autopsy would need to be performed on both the mother . First off she was supposed to have been in a rage enough to have been snuffing the life out of her daughter & then when she sees the object of her rage that caused this who then starts to fight with her & strangle her she doesnt dig her nails into him anywhere? Nickole Atkinson was first to sound the alarm; she told police she dropped Shannan off and Shannon was 15 weeks pregnant and not feeling well. Cyril Wect is an expert who always talks about how drowning victims have water in their lungs ONLY if they are alive during drowning and not completely dead !!!!!! Chris was plainly seen in the neighbors security video loading a red gas can into the back of his truck. He was all over the house. Tell the world, especially the misinformed idiots who think Chris Watts is an attractive man and Shannan was controlling. They manipulate, connive and plot. Here is what the International OCD Foundation says. I know plenty of women who wear their bras to sleep, myself included. Even more common with pregnant women. Also, wasnt her phone found in between couch cushions. Watts was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger, and Shananns texts show he had grown cold to her. The Watts murders got to me also. Any attacking motion he made that Shanann saw, even for a second, would have prompted her to scream. He says he never saw what happened to Bella because he was downstairs. The Netflix show details the deteriorating relationship between Chris and Shanann, who began suspecting her husband was having an affair and felt he was suddenly pulling away from her, a fact she spilled to numerous friends in anguished text messages. When you are larger or they are tender, especially when pregnant, it is easier to sleep in them. Three days after the murders, on August 16, police discovered Shanann's body in a shallow grave and the girls stuffed inside nearby oil tanks on the . The autopsy report details her cause of death and injuries. I also believe Shanann was also sleeping when the attack occurred which could explain her lack of putting up a fight. Poor Bella was smothered with extreme force to her face that it left bruising. Ive considered morphine [since Shanann was a lupus sufferer, and needed strong pain meds], but morphine should have come up in the autopsy. Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. Exhausting and she was pregnant. If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? The one person who took a few breaths almost immediately fainted. I have come to think of her OCD tendencies as a bit like the way she was around her kids. Nor did any part of whats left of a moral consciousness scream what are you doing?!!! I remember one video where shes tasting one of the Thrive bars and effusing over how delicious it is, while one of her daughters cries with hunger in the background, and ShanAnn tells the poor child, No, you cant have this this is Mommys. She had a separate closest for her shoes & purses. I am new to this case, a couple of months of watching/listening to your videos Nick, and I am now working my way through your books. Anyway, this is the scenario I would paint if I were the prosecutor in the case. When youre pregnant, your chest grows significantly and pretty rapidly- its completely understandable that she might have been wearing one to bed. https://jcp.bmj.com/content/54/5/348, This is why Shanann had no defensive injuries, and this technique would account for everything in her autopsy, from blood alcohol/ethanol levels to an unbroken hyoid bone Think before you speak, Im glad he will never be out of his jail cell. According to the arrest affidavit and footage from a security camera in the interview room, he failed a polygraph test and subsequently confessed to murdering Shanann. Shannan did not have any marks on her face indicative of a punch, slap, or anything at all. Chris and or others..I tend to agreeShan ann was imodefinitely disabled at some pointBella maybe not..she fought hard. He needed to be executed. I believe the DA said there was no evidence of fibers related to the smothering of Bella and Celeste. Ive seen many people die in the hospital where I worked- not everyone poops when they die (and their stomachs were empty)- except the oil in the Angels stomach. Do you think CW could have strangled her from behind? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE. The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. @Nick I thought the bedsheets in the bedroom were soiled? It was a matter of how they were immersed in the oil. Maybe im not reading this correctly or i missed it but what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids? Carol, I think you are absolutely spot on, and on all points too. Time needed to cause petechiae is; Fifteen to thirty seconds (Anscombe and Knight 1996); Ten to thirty seconds (Plattner et al 2005); Fifteen seconds maximum (Copley & Kozam 1951) using the capillary fragility test; Shortly after gravity inversion in healthy individuals (Friberg & Weinreb 1985) Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. Specifically, the region of your brain that controls the muscles that hold your sphincter closed becomes incapacitated following death. In the first half of this demo, you have them face to face when the attack occurs. No, so you have same information that anyone else has. He said in his admissions that she deficated during the murder in thier bed, where he wrapped her in a sheet and moved her to the floor immediately- where he was interrupted by the girls waking up (after his first attempt to kill them by suffocating them in thier sleep)- the girls were killed in his truck CeCe was wearing a diaper, so even if she had deficated or urinated it would be unclear after days in the crude oil.. And Bella was likely not dead but simply unconscious again when he dumped her body- therefore, even if she did relax enough to evacuate her bowels and bladder- it wasnt until she was in the crude oil tank. I bet there was no conversation. He is not only a monster, but also a coward, by quickly disabling his victims. Told everyone I was bipolar, that we were divorced, even took me to one of his counseling sessions to prove I was the one with the problem. Quick as law enforcement were to respond to the crime, by the time they recovered the remains of the two little girls, they had been chemical altered beyond recognition. Part of the evidence that he put into the trash. Watts was no genius, by saying he saw her kill CeCe and giving such a short timeframe for their killings, he left it wide open that they could have been saved had he called 911 or administered CPR instead of murdering his pregnant wife. Or even creepier, but fitting the narcissist he is, asked her to lie down and talk to him, maybe even told her he was sorry and wanted to try and work things out and then pinned her down and strangled her. I am doing a project for school and i would like to have a look at them. @Lisa oh hell, if your description is an accurate one for a diagnosis of OCD, then I reckon I have it too! Nickole called Christopher Watts and requested he come home and check on Shanann. Also this is awful but he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. Also, I read that the kids were very light sleepers. Colorado is very rural. Once the body dies the lower digestive tract opens up. -nickvdl. For example, someone with OCD could have the thought that if they dont touch a doorknob a certain number of times an exact way, they will get a disease. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much. Did you mention in your book that Shannan thought her marriage was wonderful and things started changing around the time your Hero Chris Watts started having an affair? The reports had been sealed until the outcome of the trial. I also believe in my heart that Shannan did not hurt her babies https://youtu.be/U8fe6Ckeh5A?t=210. Cuz if shed already died she would have not been engaged in the act of strangling her like he said. It has NOTHING to do with being organized, clean, or a neat freak. Both my kids were blue and they were gone. Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. He runs into Ceces room & walks up to Shannan. The reports show that the bodies of both little girls were placed inside oil containers with a narrow opening that was only 8 inches in diameter. Shanann returned home from a business trip on the early morning hours of August 13, 2019. Meanwhile, the part of your brain that regulates involuntary functions is shutting down. @huey Please read todays post where it reads 1. Id recite a few examples from case law but I dont think youre really here to discuss anything. If Chris had not had the affair, he would not have killed his family! They did not even attend the wedding and barely knew their grandchildren from what I gathered. If Chris *hadnt* killed them, would he have gone to so much trouble to hide the bodies? Page 463 Why was the oil/sludge found in Bellas stomach? Shes not going to carry her suitcase up the stairs because of her pregnant state, and she wasnt feeling well. How do you or any of us know what her last words to Chris were? She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. Please have respect for people who suffer with the condition, and research it before you comment about it. I havent finished reading the Discovery yet (just at the freaky prison fan mail/hate mail) but I havent read anything yet about any DNA testing of the sheets? It may interest people to see how MLM companies such as Thrive, train their customers and promoters in Time and Management and Organisational skills, both of which can be classified as OCD behaviours to an untrained eye. @Nickhi, in answer to your question about the suitcase she might have been so exhausted and wanting to get to bed right away that she left it downstairs, figuring she would deal with it in the morning. Who and/or what are we dealing with here? Chris said Shanann arrived home from a trip. didnt attempt it herself. like others, cannot wrap my brain around his behavior. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Watts Sentencing: Live Coverage and Analysis [Updated throughout the day] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Crime News November 2018 | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, The murder of the Watts children at CERVI 319 as Dramatized in FAMILY MAN, FAMILY MURDERER | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. Areas of bruising, external. Much more interest in the case in his home state; in Wisconsin, hes just a number. Kick him? 53 102 comments sorted by New Add a Comment its pretty clear they went to bed like normal >>>How is it pretty clear? Donald, the house has bedrooms upstairs and a central family room with a couch and TV in between the master and the girls bedrooms. Those were my kids. He claimed he saw Shanann on top of Cece and that they were blue. He said he lost it and choked Shanann. Please God Forgive me for everything.. Police saw a bed sheet. First of all- the digestive tract is long. 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