Ive also spoken with the Iowa lead detective on the Evansdale case. If the latter is true, it is quite remarkable, but both the screams and the phone pinging at 2 AM are unverified rumors at this point. The girls were riding bicycles when they were accosted by the killer near the trailhead. It is a moral and legal problem, not a psychological one. It was quickly taken down, but there were people who speculated about Keener's reason for posting it. }); That may or may not be the case. remember when Carter stated that they have something that belongs to the killer??? "However small it may seem, it's extremely vital that we get every tip we can get. It is hard enough to lose a child let alone place blame on the mothers. Because of societys morals, much of this behavior is illegal. Was he in the area when they went missing? Considering that the killer catfished Libby only via Snapchat for four months and specifically targeted her for the murder, it is interesting because he knew her grandparents well so presumably he was quite familiar with Libby. Mr. X indeed never lost his keys. I worked as a proofreader of an academic journal, an assistant editor of a major magazine, and a freelance writer. This roommate looked at the BG video. The main suspect was parked at the cemetery at least from 6:30 PM on. They have little to no attraction to mature females or adult women. Allen, 50, has been charged with two counts of murder in the killings of the teen girls, whose bodies were found in 2017, after the friends went for a walk on the Delphi Historic Trails. This second group rationalizes that X couldnt move his truck on the night of February 13th because by then he was barricaded by the police. Problem is that while 16 year old looks fantastic, when she opens up her mouth, she sounds like a 10 year old. He wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight, but he does wear a pork pie hat. There are only two cell towers in town so thats actually a possibility, albeit a remote one. Obviously we need to dig deeper into this man you are referring to. Says a man broke in, raped her, and took Gannon. He settled in Delphi in 2011 and lived there for 10 years, mostly with his wife. How would have have gotten into the CPS building? I do not know how to use any graphics program. Id be embarrassed to have sent this to the fbi, if you actually did that. Good to see that little smile he sometimes has, replaced by dilated pupils in his mug, full of anxiety, not knowing how much LE has on him. This person told me that he found this woman to be very credible. How did he do it? Does he still have them up on Youtube? The only people out searching were family and friends of the girls. Where was Mr. X between 6:30 PM Monday and 12:30 PM Tuesday? This would follow from the report of the search party member below where she says that Libby had a log jammed up perpendicular to her crotch to make it seem as it was penetrating her sexually. Some lady walking the trails and flannel guy? We were also taught to source and label our sources things properly, and we had to take a semester in the libel law which was modeled on a law school course. Hence the truck is still here. Logic tells us that it would have taken him longer to carry out these murders. However, backing that up somewhat, I have screenshots of a woman, Ms. Y, who knew Mr. and Mrs. X for a long time. }); As you can see in the photo above, the object highlighted in green is obviously a knife. It has to be BAM. Thats probably not true, but if you read about how the killer staged the crime scene, you might think that was the case. Four months after their deaths, the families of Liberty German and Abigail Williams hope that these newly released Later he needed months of psychotherapy due to the trauma he experienced by discovering the bodies. The van is the suspect vehicle because it was seen at the trailhead just before the girls vanished. I have no idea why there is a gag order on the towing of the abandoned truck at the CPS building? Richard Allen was arrested in October for the 2017 deaths of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, but details about the case have remained sealed. He has been married to Mrs. X for some time, possibly 10+ years. He said that BGs voice matched Mr. Xs perfectly. There is no evidence that this man is involved in this crime. Keep in mind that I have not been able to verify this rumor. "We want to know who he is, State Police Sgt. Ms. Y said Mrs. X had made a series of very strange posts to Facebook about how she thought she had known someone all her life but it turned out she didnt know them and that this person turned out be some sort of an evil force. Hebephilia is not considered to be a mental disorder as attraction to pubescent females is quite normal among teleiophilic men. This information comes from a retired LE officer in Illinois. They were younger than the teenage victims in this case, both below age 11. The girls had documented some of their walk on Snapchat. Im a terrible artist. The Patty family said they still want to help investigators as much as they can since this investigation is still ongoing. So you can see we had active duty LE in our group working with us. Perhaps they are doing this out of loyalty to their friend. If the FBI wants to take you down, you go down. We dont know if he was there earlier or not. Leaker said that LE thinks Mr. X did it, but they dont have enough evidence on him to take it to court. If Mr. X is BG, it makes perfect sense that he has a rap sheet for a sex crime. This poster also repeated the favorite that Leaker should be arrested for some fake crime called interfering with an investigation. There have been calls for years to have me arrested on this fake crime too. Specifically, in one photo it is stated both bodies are circled: AWs in green; LGs body is blue. But my finest sleuths have consistently been my female sleuths. The transition Kelsi described in her post for this year came after the 50-year-old suspect Richard Allen was arrested in October 2022, nearing the end of a long cold case for investigators. DELPHI MURDERS CRIME SCENE PHOTOS!!! I can see why dude no longer works at Tribune as his work is not professional. See, you cant. Were better than that. But we need more than that to confirm rumors in this case. I cant imagine the heartache that comes with this walk, Another individual who was at loss for words wrote, "I don't know what to say, so I'll just say (again) that I'm so very sorry and I know this anniversary never gets easier. You want to call me pedophile based on that? What I mean is what if Mr. X is claiming he lost his keys in the woods when he was helping with the search? Press J to jump to the feed. Abby screamed. I have graphic artists who do that for me. He couldnt keep them alive and tortured them, though he may have wanted to. hitType: 'event', None of these things are incriminating enough to take a case to court. Maybe just coincidence but just strikes me as odd that theres all this dubious car towing going on in this small town during this time. He was married for up to a decade to a wife before she was able to tear down his mask of sanity. See Harvey Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity, 1947, the ultimate document ever written on psychopathy. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. Chadwell lives near Delphi and looks like the man captured by Libby German on Snapchat: Its also noted that on Chadwells Facebook page, he enjoys hiking and has many photos of other scenic bridges in the area. But there goes his alibi. Just talks about some stuff they are looking for. And he said that the way BG walked was a dead on perfect match for BGs walk. I'm so sorry for this grief you have to carry." Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Did he ever go home to his wife that night? A bail hearing is scheduled for February 17, where future trial dates will also be discussed. Theres no evidence that LE has ever served a search warrant on Mr. X, though they may have. The woman told me that dolls were scattered about at the scene in addition to the one shoved between Abbys legs. Bowlin offered to give DNA and take a lie detector test. You want to hold that against me? He figured out that she wasnt dead. CVS confirmed that Allen was an employee at its Delphi store and state records show he was a licensed pharmacy technician. Theyre scared so they keep quiet. This is the price you pay to live in a free country. Best friends Libby German, 14, and He was 21 at the time of the crime, and hes a dead perfect match for the second sketch. I feel the abuse interpretation struck a nerve with you so I won't comment any further. According to the theoretical physicist, he seemed to be saying that this smiley face sheet had been hung from trees. She wasnt the sort of person to make things up more like the opposite. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. This man came back and told us that not only is Mr. X the prime suspect in these murders, but they also suspect him in other murders. I say at least because no one knows exactly when Mr. Xs truck was first parked in the cemetery. Stat rape is probably not harmful to teenage girls. Since the murders, he has gained ~50 pounds. Leazenby said, Caleb, if we ever need you for any of that, well contact you. Based on this, LE does not suspect Bowlin of being part of this crime. Mr. Xs daughter has made an appearance in Facebook groups, saying that hes the greatest guy in the world, and he couldnt possibly have done this. He snitched on Richard Allen, who is surely not the killer of those girls. Just when you thought things couldnt get any worse, they do just that. After that photo however, another of the same photo has only the body of AW circled, referring to it mistakingly as being that of LG. "The people who worked with him had no clue and were just as surprised as everyone else," the source said. Men who kill teenage girls and women almost never commit sexual murders of little girls. I dont know if theyve cleared him or not. But thats a fairly normal attraction for a 14 year old boy to have. Did he have family dysfunction? Whooopee! He was cleared of involvement in the case. You and your family have touched so many." The trial for her murder is over. eventAction: 'load' They are both in the same direction. WordPress took no action against my website in response to Mr. Alters complaints, assuming he made any to them. So this is one of those fake crimes (like Lying to the FBI another fake crime) that they use for political purposes. I believe they detained him for a couple of weeks and released him. The woman told me that a large toy-like object was left at the scene. Web46K views 2 weeks ago #abbyandlibby #delphi #truecrime. Its probably #5 or 6 in popularity in the last two decades. Mr. X was later caught by LE in this lie about losing his car keys, and this is one of the things that provoked their interest in him. His truck gets towed and they go get it later. Women are lousy at logic as any man whos had a girlfriend or wife knows, but men blow at intuition, so it all evens out in the end. At this time, he had a male roommate who suspects Mr. X in not only the Delphi murders but also the Evansdale Murders. In most US states, the AOC is 16 or 17. Thats illegal in most places, either child molestation in the case of 12 year olds or statutory rape for 13-15 year olds. Anyway, this whole discrepancy got me thinking a bitwith there being four entrances, why did the police not go to the Mears entrance to start their search, seeing as it is the place Abby and Libby were last known to be? Bowlin presented himself to Leazenbys office and told the sheriff that there were rumors going around that he was BG. Its just another form of abuse from an abusive man. Oh I see. One of the things I pointed out in these images is that the killer spread both of the girls legs wide open after disrobing them below the waist. That to me is simply astonishing that he went through with it after making small talk with a witness. Why didnt he park at Rons front door if he wanted to knock and ask permission to search his land? And these arent the only two. . Pauls doing some pretty nice intuitive work up above though. A drug connection appears to be ruled out. LGs body in blue.. About 0%. Allen's daughter can be seen smiling on what looks like the same bridge that Libby documented on Snapchat the day she and Abby disappeared. People are making statements that the statements in this article are due to me having inside information. This is accompanied by a lot of snarkery and hostility. Dealing with haters. Even for Ted Bundy this was considered shameful. That can only mean that BG fired a gun at some point in this crime. Yes, he was parked at the CPS building (its Crop Protection Service) before the killings and then cemetery after the killings to stage the scene, correct! I have nothing but intense admiration for all of the detectives working on this case. Mr. X has two children, a younger daughter who is a very out lesbian and an older daughter, about 30 and unmarried. Long, runs to 59 pages. Theres a lot more freedom in there to name names, addresses, phone numbers, really sleuth people out the way we cant do in here. Hes not a family member. Many, many pistols are chambered in that caliber, both expensive, and cheap ones. He had to dispatch them quickly so they wouldnt scream. Poor Abby saw this horror in front of her face. Basically never happens. A solution to this problem lies in the notion of pedohebephilia. Instead these guys are master craftsmen straight out of a Sherlock Holmes or John Buchan novel. After all, two female minors were abducted at once in both crimes and were either killed or there was an attempt made to kill both of them. We arent vigilantes here in America. WebAs CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and 14-year-old Libby were murdered in 2017, but the killer remains elusive. Furthermore, why on Earth did he specifically ask to search Ron Logans property, which is exactly where the girls were killed? The blow did not kill her though. A dead woman is positioned in a bathtub, and a broom handle of an intact broom is shoved into her vagina. Because if he had, he would note that Leaker said that this account was only deciphered after long painstaking work with audio experts who managed to clean up the completed garbled audio on Libbys phone. pg.acq.push(function() { Mr. and Mrs. X are close to the Pattys. Dances with Wolves actor pleads not guilty in 'sex cult' case, Star singer La Tigresa dies from a heart attack at 89 after storied career, TikTok star, 28, is charged with child abuse after 'attack on boyfriend', Rape survivor slams Gabby Petito Utah cop over handling of her case, 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Social media users have expressed outrage after images of the Delphi murder scene were allegedly shared online, Richard Allen was arrested in October for the deaths of Libby and Abigail, The bodies were found in 2017, after the friends went for a walk on the Delphi Historic Trails, Liberty and Abigail were reported missing to police after their parents were unable to locate them at the pick-up location - investigators released a video of the suspect that was extracted from slain 14-year-old Liberty Germans cell phone. The shocking news that we learned from our retired LE contact was that LE now thinks that the Delphi Murders and the Evansdale Murders are linked. Nobody really knows this. The grabs below are from a Youtuber who is actually a theoretical physicist. He verified the rumor, saying he had seen crime scene photos. Did he stay out there next to his truck all night? Around the time of the crime, Mr. X was about the same height and weight as BG. As I discussed in my last update, I recently came upon photocopies one or more official document(s) relating to the case. Ron thought it was an odd request but he granted it because Mr. X was a neighbor who lived only 2 miles away. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Back in January, it was ruled by Judge Frances Gull that the jury will come from Allen County after determining that finding impartial jurors in Carroll County would be too difficult. Wonder about his wife & daughter what alls comprising their reactions to all this. Ive been run through the grinder for years over this rumor, and I was trying to avoid it in this post, but I have no choice but talk about it. See, if there were spent rounds at the crime scene, that leads me to believe that he held the girls somewhere until the cover of nightfall, where no one would be on the public trails to see or hear anything. If he was in another town at the time of the murders, when did he come home? . The female searcher at the crime scene who reported the white sheet with the smiley face on it decribed it to me as a white sheet, not a white scarf, so I think we are looking at two different items. eventAction: 'render' Third photo is again of the shoe, what looks like a pair of underwear and what looks like a tie die tshirt (again, if the photo is actually real). In addition, a number of little girls swimsuits were found in his van. However, killers who commit sexual murders of little girls under 13 are a different breed. How about getting your moneys worth? He may have stuck around because he was busy shuttling the girls to wherever they hid them and then bringing them back to kill them. Thing is we were able to source this to two LE sources. . It is thought that these drunken young men may have been tossed off of bridges. I have in my possession what are purported to be leaked photos of the Delphi crime scene where Abby Williams and Gavin Fish. I work with a lot of females. Later on he did sexual things with both bodies involving sticks and twigs. The helicopter video where there is a circle of flashes going off. What in Gods name is he talking about?! Note the knife on or near Libbys shoulder in green. This is what they are like. He was born in 1965 in Illinois and is 55 years old and looks his age. Someone wrote Mr. X was seen leaving after doing his evil deeds? The date of Allen's bail hearing, where future trial dates will also be discussed, is set for February 17. Ew. I dont know the gentleman personally at all so Ive probably seen him, Mike Patty, Libbys grandpa, said. Cops catch him in three different lies about why his truck is sitting right above the crime scene for 18 years within a 6 minute walk of the girls. Sadly, I may have reported that earlier. I do not recall ever reporting such a thing. Someone who, for the sake of his well-being and that of others, would rather be a bit uncomfortable, masked up on a lovely & unusually warm day, taking scrupulous care for good reasons. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. His Facebook page is full of photos of little girls. Meanwhile, legal teams are only allowed to speak with the media about procedural items. I love grown women. There are references below to an elaborate crime scene with posing of the girls and all sorts of crazy and unlikely objects scattered about. https://www.facebook.com/1174987605/posts/10219588288995875/. The information below comes from three sources. LE was angry that BG was in the room. It has now been revealed that Mike Patty, her grandfather, did this for unknown reasons. Ms. C told me that in these misophile networks, the ultimate high is considered to be to be get two little girls at once and rape, torture, and murder them. "Jaaah?" They cant use that in court, but these partial matches are useful to LE because they give LE additional confidence that they have the right suspect. Reddit said this could not be true because if it was, LE would have released it to the public. He took a lie detector test but the results were inconclusive. I wonder if the photographer was J Kyle Keener? Most of my disturbing artist friends are actually the gentlest souls Ive ever met. 3. Another thing is the so called scarfpossibly the sheet? In the above photo, Libbys right and left legs are marked. And why, when he came back into town, did he decide to go to the bridge to look for the girls when he had no idea they were missing? Kind of like, you know, life itself? On February 14, 2017, Libby and Abby's bodies were found in Delphi, Indiana, next to a closed down railroad. Sending you all lots of love and hugs. But wait. I can even think of some serials who are running around free where LE believes that they committed several homicides. There is a report on Reddit that I reported a scream was heard in the night. I think he was trying to be artistic and he really missed the mark. LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they dont have enough on him to make a case. By the way, the man who did the labeling was a sheriff in a nearby county who joined our group incognito. The latest I have heard is that they moved back to Illinois, but that may just be a rumor. He lived in Delphi most of the last decade. My female sleuths just look at the pieces of the puzzle and put it together BAM. However, she had not yet seen these crime scene photos. }) The wife is a curious case. Hes also right in the midst of all the fun and games revolving around the discovery of the bodies. Supposedly this led to it being shut down. An undated handout photo shows Libby German of Delphi, Ind., who was murdered in Feb. 2017. No one knows anything about Leigh Kerrs stories, but one of them, new information that BG had binoculars that he used in his ploy the capture the girls, has been validated. Richard Allen, 50, was charged with counts of murder in the 2017 slayings of Abby Williams and Libby German. Youd think hed want to be as far away from the woods as possible. Theres just a lot of mixed emotions.". Apparently that comment means I confessed to being a pedophile. One reason I quit doing these Delphi articles is because I got tired of dealing with idiots like this all the time. They charged someone with interfering with an investigation for destroying documents relevant to the case in order to avoid prosecution. Allen is being held without bond by the Indiana Department of Correction. This lines up with the Indiana Star article that also discussed Mr. X as a prime Delphi suspect and explored the possibility of a link between Delphi and Evansdale. 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