Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery $8 billed every 4 weeks for the first 12 weeks, then $36 billed every 4 weeks. Knock On Effect NSW Cup Draw; Harvey Norman Women's Premiership. Peter Vlandys is often asked when the NRL will bring back the Bears. NRL Round 1 Talking Points - early edition: Whos confident? After Norths were booted out of the bad marriage, mates of mine havent been to a league game since. Copyright 2023 NorthernBeachesSportsTribune News. If you'd like to see more content from Matt Cleary, they'd be very grateful for your support and contribution. Some fans will tell you the Bears are a relic of the past. Policy played out in the court of public opinion; its how we roll in the twenties. If that's the marker, then the ARLC suited bean-counters should do this: Granted! Little success was had during three seasons (2000-2002), finishing 12th, 10th, and 9th, winning 30 of 76 games. Because: emotion, tribalism, and all that good, human stuff. [12], On 14 July 1994, the club was fined $87,000 for breaching the salary cap. There are a million reasons why. North Sydney is based on Sydney's Lower North Shore, and has played at North Sydney Oval since 1910. Once again they were eliminated from the finals after losing both their matches in consecutive weeks,. And relocating an entity, be they Bears, Dragons, Sharks, Tigers, Roosters, whoever, well, knowing fans as I do, and being one of them, youd just as soon they kill your team as see it move away. [17][18], In 1998, Norths finished 5th on the table and qualified for the finals. The Dolphins losing the Redcliffe bit is madness. Too right. The winner of the match was to play minor premiers Manly in The Grand final. July 22nd, 2022 11:47 am. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. Become a member to join in Australia's biggest sporting debate, submit articles, receive updates straight to your inbox and keep up with your favourite teams and authors. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. When Souths were kicked out, mates of mine followed Randwick. Brad Fittler calls for Manly Sea Eagles and North Sydney Bears to merge and form a 'behemoth' club The Northern Eagles in 2000. Subscribe with Google lets you purchase a subscription, using your Google account. The Northern Pride who Carney was contracted with demanded that Norths pay the fee which the club refused to do and hoped that a deal could be met between Carney's management team and The Queensland Cup side before the 30 June transfer window closed. The club was established in 1908, making it one of the original founding members of the New South Wales Rugby Football League, and one of Australia's first rugby league football clubs. Maybe not instant. For two wilderness-riven decades, Bears hopefuls have been scoffed at, cast as hopeless, foolish tragics, and blind to the realities of economic rationalism in the 21st century. They knew: tribalism is good. Thus a merge of Sydney Dragon-Sharks would be logical. For all the people saying the CEO and Commissioners need to be "RL people", just remember; A solution that may work is a Bears and seaeagles in nsw Cup remain as sepeate identities and a new club takes the license, based at Gosford but with couple of games in manly/NS. And the fans went with them. Not in conjunction with any other offer. Carney spoke to the media saying "I had that option with the Bears but Souths have blocked that, I'm sure something will come up". Theres still people holding a candle for the Newtown Jets, though not enough that the Jets arent destined to forever be a reserve grade feeder out of Henson Park. NRL support. People can also support a team though theyve never set foot in their zone. On a fine and sunny afternoon at dear little Brookie, against the Eels, say, thered be what 15,000 fans? As of 2014, there have been several attempts for the Bears to come back into the NRL by being based at the Central Coast, North Sydney, Perth, Gold Coast and Brisbane. In 1986 North Sydney missed the finals. And we had a $50 million bank guarantee, so we would have been strong. Towards the end of the war Norths' fortunes improved, playing quality and spectators numbers increased, and they won 2 premierships in 192122 coached by Chris McKivat. Dont worry mate, he consoled me, gently putting a fatherly arm around me as I tried to hide my flood of tears from my uncles. Twice the Bears have adorned the back page of the West Australian, and ahead of Perth's hosting of the State of Origin on Sunday, Bears chairman Daniel Dickson will be in the city to meet a. It didnt matter: the Bears were done, their cards were marked. And all those aforementioned Sydney fisheries have a team, while a one million-strong chunk of northern Sydney and its near north does not. [3], North Sydney was formed as a foundation club of the newly arrived rugby league game in 1908 and were initially known as the Shoremen. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. A valid active email address and Australian mobile phone number are required for account set up. Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast license. There are so many players play up there, so you can get the best kids aspiring to play for the Central Coast". North Sydney would have another chance the following week to make the grand final going up against defending premiers Canberra in the preliminary final. People follow footy teams largely because the team represents them, their patch, their people. At the end of the day, if they dont like the decision the Bears make, they can take it up with us. North Sydney chose to join the temporary Presidents Cup competition which involved teams from country New South Wales and the Ron Massey Cup. But it looks like Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Vlandys disagrees. But as recently as April 2021 the Bears have expressed their intent on eventually returning the brand to the NRL competition. Consider: six hundred thousand people live from Kirribilli to Hornsby Heights, from the Roseville Bridge to north-west Ryde. They were eliminated by Balmain in a playoff for 5th place. Commercial viability. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. Copyright 2023 Sporting News Holdings Limited. Hes a doctor of demographics. But Jeez thats two million eyeballs. In 2019 the Australian Rugby League Commission cobbled together a white paper of sorts, a plan to prop up under-performing Sydney NRL clubs with revenue that would apparently flow from broadcasters once the club had relocated to a new place where people watch telly. Bears Banter; Bears TV; Teams & Draws. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. The Northern Eagles represented Manly. Maybe not instant. So far they have failed to gain a licence to re-enter the NRL with the latest push of buying the Manly Sea Eagles licence from Penn Sports for $6,000,000 after a failed attempt by Qatar to buy Manly for $22,000,000 a week earlier. Its like when politicians are parachuted into safe seats. And if there were a Bears team to call their own, local people would invest in the Bears, consume the Bears, love the Bears. There are hundreds of thousands of Bears people, just like me, who will invoke the same, mechanised caution at the prospect of a miracle: a return to first grade, footy at Bear Park, even just once a year, in the red and black. [49] The General Manager of Norths and most capped player of the club Greg Florimo said at the time of North Sydney's first public interest in purchasing The Gold Coast licence as "the last chance". Mortgage House signed a three-year deal to sponsor the Central Coast Bears, also becoming a major jersey sponsor for the Bears. For mine, sports fans, that is freakin La La Land. They defeated the Newcastle Knights 32-28 in the first week of the finals, and were then eliminated by minor premiers and eventual NSW Cup premiers the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks in the preliminary final, who recorded a convincing 38-6 win. Donnelly was the voluntary administrator of the North Sydney Rugby League Club when financial difficulties forced it out of the NRL competition at the end of 1999. A WA-Bears joint venture will be judged very much on their business model rather than the emotion around the Bears. You must log in or register to reply here. North Sydney were coached that year by the great Ron Willey. Taylor ended up missing the goal. 380 following. Seriously, brad Fittler and matty johns are past the point of no return. cost) every 4 weeks unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. We lost thousands and thousands of rugby league fans.. No cancellations during the first 12 months. Anywhere from the Harbour Bridge - take in the Central Coast - that would be such a powerful area and if they could come to some sense you could encapsulate Brookvale Oval, North Sydney Oval and Gosford and have a wonderful, strong club.. Maybe not jubilation. Unfortunately, these would be their last first grade premierships, and their last grand final appearance was in 1943. Singleton then spoke about the Gold Coast Titans and how their bid beat Singleton's initial bid for a Central Coast team in 2006 saying They had no money and no stadium, and we did have a stadium built for North Sydney. If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. Prices after the introductory pricing period may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. Same-same. Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery 12 Month Plan costs $312 (min. Get five per cent of Northern Sydney to a North Sydney Bears game and that's 50,000 citizens. It's just sad that the owner of the Roosters doesn't realise they are a drain on the NRL and don't pull crowds. If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. If you wish to change or create a new subscription, please call 1800 070 535 Monday to Friday 7.30am 6.00pm & 7.00am-11.30am AEST on both Saturdays & Sundays. "We went with the Dolphins for the 17th because they had a strong business . Poker machine money enabled the first-grade roster some glitz, and though the Curse of the Cammeraygal continued to thwart their premiership hopes, the Bears were nevertheless one of the heavyweight teams of that decade. And they dont have a footy team to call their own. Port Moresby, for sweet Mal Meningas sake, because the Australian government would like to use rugby league to do something with regional aid or sufficiency, or something, I dont know, I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. Only Parramatta (890,000) and Wests Tigers (690,000) have a larger catchment than the Bears would have. Get five per cent of Greater Northern Sydney to a North Sydney Bears game and thats 50,000 citizens. Can I put my subscription or membership on hold? Prices after the first 12 months may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. Norths also amalgamated with the Seagulls, a border club at Tweed Heads on the far north coast of New South Wales, the oldest provincial rugby league club in Australia. Cronulla has 220,000. And all those aforementioned Sydney fisheries have a team, while a one million-strong chunk of northern Sydney and its near north does not. As reported in the Tele political type and Bears man James Mullan is organising a massive rally for March or April of next year like Souths had in 2000 at Town Hall. Theres still people holding a candle for the Newtown Jets, though not enough that the Jets arent destined to forever be a reserve grade feeder out of Henson Park. There are a million reasons why. As Nick Politis said in the piece in The Tele Bears fans didnt go to Manly and they didnt cross the bridge and come to the Roosters. These are the ties that bind. with other sports fans, Please enter your credit or debit card details below. I was eight, Norths were first. And it was bye-bye Bears to purgatory. Penrith (590,000) is about the same. I think they would be crazy not to make that work, a Northern Suburbs team, Fittler told Wide World of Sports. Billy Moore, Greg Florimo and a massive bear (left). A host of Norths' finest . The voice of TRUE North Sydney Bears Supporters. A historic quote for the family. And they didnt. That's lotta eyeballs. [63] The Bears intend to retain their 113-year history and traditional black and red colours. Manly's licence is redistributed to a WA or Bris2 franchise. Before this, Norths were the feeder team for South Sydney from 2007 to 2018. Earlier this year there were reports the Bears were attempting to organise a consortium that will make a bid to purchase the NRL license off the Manly Sea Eagles. West Australian desire. Speaking to Sporting News Australia, Manly tragic Peter Zorba Peters proudly rubbished Fittlers recommendation with a warning for the Bears. If thats the marker, then the ARLC suited bean-counters should do this. North Sydney placed a $7 million bid to take over the Titans last year but were overlooked for a multi-million plan from businessman Darren Kelly to keep the licence on the Gold Coast. The rugby league greathas revived calls for the Sea Eagles to capitalise on the broader NSW north border and expand their fan base across North Sydney, the Northern Beaches and the Central Coast. Please call us on 1800 070 535 and well help resolve the issue or try again later. [55][56][57], On 9 August 2019, rugby league immortal Andrew Johns said that having a team on the Central Coast would be a "no-brainer". [citation needed] In spite of this, the club provided more players for the 2001 State of Origin series' New South Wales team than any other club. They have to be from somewhere, represent some patch. It was more a fishing exercise by suits in high places, the paper leaked to select media to disseminate in the court of public opinion. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If you subscribe directly with us you will also get access to our News+ Network which is made up of some of our most popular news sites, like. [16], In the 1997 season North Sydney again made the preliminary final against Newcastle at the Sydney Football Stadium. But it should still be done. Owned by both clubs and with equal represteantion on the board. Florimo then went on to say "I don't see too many other options presenting themselves, The energy and finance that we put into the Central Coast bid really didn't come to fruition so we're going hard to the plate on this". The Bears remain a thing. And yes if I was going to merge clubs I would support a new brand over a 'merged' brand, as merging the brands just leads to problems and infighting, so yeah instead of the new club being called the North Sydney Sea Eagles and playing in red and black, they'd have a completely new brand and be (e.g.) Going with the Flo. And today theres 600,000 people from Kirribilli to Mt Colah who dont have a rugby league team, and another 400,000 on the Central Coast. However! On 8 November 2022, the Sydney Roosters announced that they would be ending their partnership deal with North Sydney at the end of the 2023 season. Manly officially returned to the NRL in 2003 (playing out of Brookvale Oval, though they played at least two games per season in Gosford until 2015) and have since played in four NRL Grand Finals (2007, 2008, 2011 and 2013), winning the premiership in 2008 and 2011. Speaking . Id have thought the former would be a more preferential choice. [39], The Bears have won eight premierships in reserve grade, making them the second most successful club currently participating in the competition. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. Probably not irrevocable, either, given the volatile nature of this greatest game of all. Bring Back The Bears. However, no such sentiment appears to exist in Perth. L.U. In the 2016 NSW Cup North Sydney finished the season in 10th place and therefore missed the finals. "If Souths dont agree with what were doing and decide its not in our interest, we will look at the other avenues we have to ensure we have a competitive ISP side. No cancellations during the first 12 months. V'landys knows the Bears remains a popular NRL brand, despite exiting the NRL in 1999 after merging with the Sea Eagles to become the Northern Eagles. Souths: 390,000. To be a part, even if its a minor part, of a northern Sydney nrl club or remain a nswrl leagues club suburban entity? Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast licence. Youve got the big business of North Sydney, youve got the Peninsula, then youve got the people of the Central Coast, the numbers, it would be nearly a behemoth of a club if it had the right administration and the right people behind it. However, poor on-field performances and factional fighting led to the collapse of the Northern Eagles in 2002, after only three years. But how can you blame Manly for doing the right thing by Manly? After this, the Northern Eagles' licence then reverted to the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles, leaving the foundation club out of the top flight of rugby league in Australia after more than 90 years. Nothing locked in, of course, not officially. Policy played out in the court of public opinion; its how we roll in the twenties. Maybe not jubilation. Peter V'landys is often asked when the NRL will bring back the Bears. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. Halfway through the season, the Eagles even abandoned playing games at Gosford, due to a sharp decline in attendances. And the Bears didn't get a license when using the press is what they shouldve done along with all the other weapons in their armoury to shift public opinion to the Bears. Freddy Fittler has called for the two clubs to merge once more. Politicians do the same thing with policy; leak a backbenchers brain-fart to the papers, see how it flies among the populace. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. They love the club. Bring Back The Bears! Bulletin Latest Headlines direct to your inbox, LeagueUnlimited | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer. We want to see it! From then on, you can then use Sign In with Google to access your subscription and Google will do the billing for the subscription and process your payments. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. Its why people follow footy teams. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. Please check your email to receive the magic link. Sign up successfully. The loss was evidently too much for me, and I began to cry. Nobody would win, not even TV. For those who wish to see the Bears return to the top grade, it is hard to conceive of a comment more inviting. Then it was the Western Bears. JavaScript is disabled. Madness, of course. Theyre not just a floating entity that sells merch. You are using an out of date browser. Renewals occur unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. [4] Many good players such as Andy Morton, Jimmy Devereaux and Sid Deane were lost to English clubs in the years after making the semi-finals in the season of 1908. On 11 October 2017, Shane Millard was announced as new head coach by the club. Perth team? A page that will not be. Manly has 270,000. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. This was also Matt King's final game of Rugby League. Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. They didn't win many, these Bears. [35], North Sydney would go on to lose both finals matches against South Sydney and Newtown. Norths were formidable in the 1990s, regularly bettering storied opponents like Canberra, Manly and Brisbane, upon whom the folklore of 90s rugby league has been built. Madness, of course. Its not all about numbers, of course. And so it was bye-bye Bears to purgatory. Twice the Bears have adorned the back page of the West Australian, and ahead of Perths hosting of the State of Origin on Sunday, Bears chairman Daniel Dickson will be in the city to meet a West Australian government group to further explore the partnership. North Sydney Bears. On 21 May 2018, Carney officially signed with North Sydney, in reaction to the signing, General Manager of football at Souths Shane Richardson said "We've spoken to Norths about Todd Carney and it's our position that we will develop our young halves, as opposed to bringing in a player from outside the club in this instance," Richardson said. But only like the two Koreas. 2012 saw North Sydney make the semi finals, missing out on the minor premiership by points differential to Canterbury-Bankstown. Everyones sold a pup, a homeless hound that nobody owns. [15], The following year saw two separate national rugby league championships, and confirmation of the club's intention to move north to New South Wales' Central Coast. In 2019 the Australian Rugby League Commission cobbled together a white paper of sorts, a plan to prop up under-performing Sydney NRL clubs with revenue that would apparently flow from broadcasters once the club had relocated to a new place where people watch telly. The Official North Sydney Bears. They would allocate between four and six games at a potentially upgraded North Sydney Oval. As would electric Dog-Eels. Please call 1800 070 535. South Sydney who have a partnership with Norths were not happy with this decision and declared that there would be no NRL pathway for Carney and declared that they might withdraw their relationship with Norths as a result. Not in conjunction with any other offer. After being behind on the scoreboard 12-0, Norths fought their way back into the match to level the scores at 14-14. Goodwill. The Knock On Effect NSW Cup. Singleton said We had the players and the lifestyle on the Central Coast once you get people up there they go: wow, how goods this. The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). Its never easy, is it? cost) every 4 weeks unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. [47], With weekly membership drives and ongoing community involvement, the Central Coast Bears targeted entry into the NRL in 2015,[48] but this date passed without admission. North Sydney would eventually reach the preliminary final in the competition but were defeated by Glebe 26-6. He enjoys golf, footy and Four Pines Pale Ale, and spends as much time as conscience allows at Long Reef GC. But theyd be into, the northern Sydney Bear people, all six hundred thousand of em, or whatever percentage the NRL could plane off and declare allegiance, and consume the club and love it one way or many. If Brookie is not up to NRL standard, why does the NRL allow them to play there? Norths went on to make the finals again in 1953 and 1954, losing to Souths and St. George respectively. The Northern Eagles shared their home games between Brookvale Oval in Sydney and Grahame Park in Gosford. Full Digital Access 12 Month Plan costs $208 (min.cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $16 every 4 weeks. North Sydney now field a team in the Canterbury Cup NSW, the competition immediately below NRL level, as a feeder to the Sydney Roosters. Consider these northern beaches. In November 2010, it was reported that Ken Sayer, CEO of Mortgage House, planned to underwrite the bid for $10 million to help ensure their financial equity was shored up when the bid was submitted. The 1990s was a decade of hope for the North Sydney Bears and while it ultimately ended in tears they almost claimed rugby league's ultimate glory along the way. Home ground - North Sydney Oval. I had a yarn once with an academic, Hunter Fujak, of University Technology Sydney. With only seconds remaining Norths frantically threw the ball around and lost it, the ball was swooped up by Newcastle's Owen Craigie and he raced away to score a try and won the game. But only like the two Koreas. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. Anyone can contribute to The Roar and have their work North Melbourne withdraws from the merger race. Hes presented Powerpoint shows to many suits detailing the findings of his years of study into Sydney peoples sports-consuming habits. At a private event some years ago, a former senior administrator in the NRL laughed in the face of a Bears official explicating the case for a return on the Central Coast in a ground the club built, underwritten by John Singleton, coached by Wayne Bennett. They knew: tribalism is good. NRL Fans gather on the hill at North Sydney Oval to watch the North Sydney Bears. NRL support. 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